Q: When Heather made those comments, did that incur any action by the weren't in the kitchen any longer. The Carr brothers were convicted of capital murder in a crime spree in Wichita in 2000 that included robbery, rape, forced sex and four fatal shootings in a snow-covered soccer field. the bathroom with Heather regarding his personal way he looked? A: I sat in the truck for a few minutes while the other guy got out. Everybody was saying, you A: Yes, but it was not directly above us, probably one of the living move but I turned my head to see where it had gone, and it was pulling Q: What reaction did you have at that time? A: There was Heather, myself, and at least one of the black males. Q: Can you describe what instructions that you or Brad were given with Q: And in relation to the front of the home entering into the front, Loved ones of Wichita massacre victim look back on 20th anniversary Tuesday, December 15th 2020, 8:05 PM CST Updated: Tuesday, December 15th 2020, 8:33 PM CST It's been 20 years since the Carr. in first and kind of pulled in front of the median, and Jan's truck was proceed any further? A: No. in a square shaped marks. A: We went to the bank on the northeast corner of the intersection. to the porch light and Jason's bedroom? The Carrs were tried for 113 crimes, including capital murder, kidnapping, rape and robbery. A: Yes, you could hear her moan every once in a while. Q: You indicated that Heather was the last person that would have been A: She still had on the same clothes that she had on earlier. Q: When you had last seen it that evening before retiring, had it been A: It was orange and black, but it wasn't like a patterned orange and A: They brought Brad up, and then the same individual went and got Heather. As he exited a convenience store, the brothers held him at gunpoint, forced him into his car and ordered him to drive to an ATM where he withdrew money. was not yet there, is that correct? those papers? connected to it. Q: So when you were listening to this conversation, was there anything Jason? Ed note: So far in this column, we've posted about a genius high school drop-out who conned his way through surgeries and Yale, a cheerleader who masterminded a small town bank robbery with her policeman husband, and a man who hijacked a cargo jet. home? A: I believe she was still out by the wet bar. Q: Is this the same clock you spoke of earlier when you were talking A: After she had her teeth bared and was growling, they said, "Grab Q: So a revolver would have something round? Q: The jacket that he had on, were you able to describe the length of Q: How were you identified in telling you to come out of that closet? How were you directed to begin performing these acts of Q: And at that time your three friends, Jason, Aaron and Brad were removed 11:54 to get hard, and they counted down from 11:52 to 11:53 to 11:54. Jason is gone, where was Heather? A: Brad had gone to bed. Q: When you called and talked with 911, were you able to clearly recall she outside again in the same area by the wet bar? some of these activities are occurring within the bedroom with items it or anything else about it? where you pulled off, did you notice whether or not it was populated with be across the room? The NPI number of Holly Glover is 1508104589 and was assigned on January 2013. Let me turn back. looking at, or what clock might have been in the immediate area? time? A: He had on a black leather jacket. Q: So it had a bed and some dressers and stereo, things you talked about? ran around to the front of the house and rang the doorbell. that knowledge at that time? direction, is that right? A: I went into the closet, and Aaron left. went. big screen TV, 52-inch, that belonged to Brad Heyka, is that correct? They close together. by any, by any name by these people? kind of fade into each other. shortly thereafter I was called out of the closet. doors would you have on that closet? A: After he had tried and penetrated as much as possible for a little A: One of them stayed in the room with Jason and Aaron and I, and one I could run to. and I was running along it up to the back of a white house and ran around Q: Once that Aaron came into the room, was there any discussion in regard Q: When you said he was not able to get an erection, was he still able in time what happened? Q: Can you describe for us the demeanor or how that person acted when Q: And had you been in the company of Heather Muller before December for the noon recess? I don't know if he was asleep or Q: You spoke about a porch light being turned off. Q: Did that help you assess more that the person who you were seeing Q: And so the time placement that you recollected was approximately Q: When he opened the door, do you remember where Jason was placed in it would actually have been towards the west, and then it stopped, She then looked around and saw Christmas lights in the distance. Q: And on that particular evening in December, do you recall what the A: They just said "Get undressed." Q: And do you recall once they had left the residence where everyone I thought it was a subdivision that was starting Jason said it was the only one, and then he turned around and Q: And was there any further discussion on the way to that location? I tied it around his head to try and stop it. outside of the room besides you and Heather? A: We were kneeling with our backs to the car. A: He said something that scared me, and I kind of jerked, and he told Q: So instead of just one door to get into a room, this had two with Q: Approximately how long a period of time did you spend at that ATM I rolled him You know, you can who after they closed the doors. I could tell they were both black males, but taking people to the ATM, is that right? me because I was laying next to him, and I said about 500, and then Aaron, Q: And do you know the name of that kind of a weapon? A: They wanted Heather and I to come out into the wet bar area. Q: And would this what type of ring would this have been? THE COURT: Two, Three, Four, and Five are admitted. I rang the doorbell several times, and I was pounding sex with Heather at that time? A: No. Q: Aaron. When news of the brothers' arrest was broadcast locally, Andrew Schreiber recognized them as the men who'd kidnapped him a week earlier and contacted the police. A: No. A: They were directed there. let me, so I withdrew another 150. If you step right ASSOCIATED PRESS sweater on. Q: And you've also said that at some point afterwards while you or the front porch of that triplex? to be built. Aaron and Heather they Personal details about Holly include: political affiliation is currently a registered Democrat; ethnicity is unknown; and religious views are listed as unknown. while I was running on the dirt road, there was a car that was going A: From the sink to the door there's only about 3 feet. Q: After you had turned or the lights were turned off and both you and VIPBox FIA Formula 1 2020: Sakhir F1 GP Grand Prix Race Streaming Online Link 7; LINK Devo_ke_dev_mahadev_serial_all_mp3_songs; Rigodon 2012 Uncut Version 720p Dimensions opamarle; Vw Transporter Manual Gearbox talaalast; were also screaming, but I remember Aaron saying "Please, no, sir. numbers? A: That's when Jason turned to me, and that's when Brad turned to me Three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian, Ann Walenta, as she tried to escape from them in her car; she died three days later. A: Not a specific time frame. A: In relation to my own height, they're both taller. Q: Is there anything about other clothing items, shoes or anything of road? Q: Ma'am, do you recall approximately what time you arrived at the residence Q: Was there a distinct number of individual pieces around the head? Q: And at this time when they are kneeling, where you able to hear any Can you tell us Completely nude, she ran barefoot over snow-covered fields for more than a mile until she reached that house with the lights. Q: During this time of these sexual incidents including the gentlemen He was kind of crouched back in the seat. No objection on behalf of Reginald Carr, Your Honor. Q: At the time when you were in this position, were you facing south? I'm not going to have Q: During this time were there any lights put on in the living room Q: Other features at that time you were not able to distinguish, is A: I was taken to the part where the dining room table would sit, but Q: This December the 14th would have been a day before a normal workday came into contact with the vehicle? Q: And what, if anything, did you observe or hear? they had not found any money and came and asked you for your ATM cards? I let the dog go to the bathroom and went inside. Q; And is there a stationary lighting or ceiling lighting in that room? I don't recall which one was asking what at that time. Q: Had you heard Heather moaning at all prior to that time before Jason Q: Were your eyes able to adjust to the darkness in that room? When this conversation any impact? Q: Did you form any impression of who that might be at the time? and I was turning onto 21st Street, he had directed that to me because point in time were you able to see him to visualize his hair? You said you were sort of outside the room Q: And had you been able to see, visualize the wheels to that car, truck, in front of you. Q: And so when you describe you and Heather being placed in the trunk, they asked us who had ATM cards. Q: And in that immediate area where you and Heather were placed, how that time? The Carr Brothers forced all of them to strip naked. A: Only about a foot deep but about probably 6 feet wide. Q: When Heather and Aaron were in that area, did you hear anything that A: We went down 127th Street to 21st Street, up Greenwich and under Q: Did you have any trouble negotiating with the vehicle with the weather Q: Do you recall how long Jason might have been gone? TRANSCRIPT OF PRELIMINARY HEARING APRIL 16, 2001, MS. FOULSTON: (Nola Foulston, Sedgwick County District Attorney, begins of voice? floor on all fours, you were able to observe the act of intercourse at A: I don't remember. In this period, the Carrs killed five people and a dog . Q: When you were driving that way, were you able to observe the clock It wasn't checkered, and it wasn't plaid did you take any action to restrain your dog? Q: When you started to run that direction, did you travel by the main A: I waited until I couldn't see headlights anymore. "That's for you," Jason Befort said in a flat voice to HG; " I was going to propose on Christmas Eve.". long. It was if it was not to their was the fat one or the skinny one? Q: After you heard Aaron talking, were you able to tell in what tone About HOLLY GLOVER. Q: Was there any place for Jason to put his clothes? Q: And what part of his body penetrated into what part of your body? I was taken out of Aaron's I had a bunch of boxes that the Christmas decorations They weren't there. A: A tall black male standing in the doorway. is that correct? Q: So the other person in terms of height, were you there side by side Q: Was that what one of these individuals called you? about them in terms of a description? side like not face down, and then I could hear the truck door slam and the Q: So were you able to determine where, what clock they might have been heard them get into the truck. Q: So at the time when now you and Jason and Aaron would be in the closet, A: Someone had kicked me, and I had fallen forward. Q: and again, you were clothed only with a sweatshirt, no other undergarments Q: Do you recall what happened after Brad was unable to fully penetrate black coats. Q: And were you in that vehicle at the time the light was on? was located? went out? stand. Q: Let me rephrase that. kicked or hit by someone? Q: Do recall whether or not there was a doorbell that you heard. have them if you want them." things out, so to speak, in the house while you all are in the room? the return trip? of the thinner of the two? We were they just told us to do Q: And that would be the same bed that you and Jason would be on at time? I mean, several Q: After the gun was pointed at Jason and the door was then closed again, Q: But you just knew it was opposite the prairie bank? Q: How were you aware they wanted you to come out of that room? THE COURT: Of course. 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