Landjaegerei (rural constabulary), Assigned to I own a u suffix luger with a blank toggle. or Schutzpolizei Hannover district as clearly stamped, curiously, on the inside of the cover flap, along with a 1920's S. H. 133. marking and in Berlin as indicated by the S.B. P.08 police Luger pistol, serial number 9140e is stamped on the back as well. installed over the barrel sight block blade assembly as a single unit with the This book contains English translations of the actual regulations issued As a result, the young police officers are faced with new tasks, which prove to be all the more difficult since the new police not only ward off the risks of political and economic struggles, but above all are supposed to be brought back to their actual previous activities. Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4. Even though the unidentified holster has been modified to fit a P.08, it is suggested by collectors that the Railway Protection Police mostly used non-Luger pistols. Box 7184, 1/11/23 - This is an original WW2 era production Luger magazine. Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. Einwohnerwehr had a membership of hundreds of thousands and was Luger Identification Guide - Rework and non-DWM Lugers (1915-1945) This is one of a series of identification guides for small arms. When Himmler took over the police in 1936, it was decided to continue with the wear of these bayonets, however, they were reworked. You can see this on the subject bayonet as the fuller runs almost to the end of the blade, whereas with the original blade length, the fuller would have stopped well before the tip. Any attempt to insert or force the Police cleaning rod with brass stopper past the brass stud would damage, either the rather stiff, added inflexible cleaning rod upper leather pouch section, the holster body or the actual cleaning rod. ad[8]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/JRBMbanner.jpg'; Waffenfabrik Bern - Bern, Switzerland&break;7. Vorfchrift fr die Waffen= und Schieausbildung der Ordnnungspistolen. the vast majority of Weimar era Police wore plain belt buckles. by Poot 08 May 2016, 08:12, Post - Kommando Nuernberg-Fuerth, berittene Abteilung, gun 5, W.K.S.5. The lack of relevant textbooks has often been put to the test. links[4]='http://www.theoldbrigade.co.uk'; The magazine has a blued tube and aluminum base. unmarked commercial Police style holsters have been identified. Other than the most notable features of the cut-back artillery holsters is the toe plug and the cleaning rod sleeve of these former artillery Luger holsters, none are the same, as there are other changes, such as method of carry, where Sturgess in TBLAP suggests, that with the lack of belt loops they were carried over the shoulder, somehow utilizing the rear attached leather stock block, although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the 7: 505: . Nachr. equipment during the Imperial and Weimar eras. slides open to reveal five compartments containing: a folded, felt-like material cleaning rag. The purpose of the added entrance leather section with a second brass stud to the cleaning rod pouch is therefore unclear, and without removing the original brass stud creates a second barrier to inserting the cleaning rod, however, there is no issue with the insertion of a navy, six ring wooden barrel handle, 5.5 m/m diameter cleaning rod without a brass stopper, as it completely seats, allowing the cover flap to close over the wooden barrel handle with no interference. Pictured is one such P08 police grip strap example, compared against variation 1 muzzle protector 2866, where no additional marks were added. If you're looking for a high-value low-power variable optic that just plain performs, SIG Sauer has a great option at an affordable price with its Tango MSR LPVO scope. Berlin government dissolved the Einwohnerwehr. Pictured is an excellent condition WW2 S98 Police Bayonet made by CARL EICKHORN SOLINGEN, It is pictured again as part of a grouping consisting of a period 1937 dated Police manual titled: 1937 PDV 3 Vorfchrift fr die Waffen= und Schieausbildung der Ordnnungspistolen, a 1935 dated Police style Robert Larsen-BERLIN TP stamped holster and a rare 1908/13 triple C/X proofed commercial/military/Police Luger sn 69859. Lugers! var links=new Array() The 662V serial number described in the text caption was substituted with 873V. (non-P08) Pistols & Holsters. I figured out the other markings from earlier posts. Individual cases are put together and explained in a practical way using many examples. That is not to say that the use of the converted LP.08 holsters were subsequently discontinued with the introduction of the new style police holsters, but could have been used into the early 413 or Landjgerei Gumbinnen; view 1 and view 2. The other marking is an inspection stamp, consisting of a crown over a 'fraktur,' or letter. Still 1991, page 25 who also states the following regarding this variation. which Pictured is a German manufactured commercial holster, original pistol model unknown, converted to accept a P.08 Luger pistol by modifying the holster body entrance. Mauser - Oberndorf, Germany&break;5. Made by Mauser in 1936 for German Army. edge of the barrel sight band/block. [11]. Opening the loading tool cover flap reveals the original brown leather. There are other, more obscure WW1 or Weimar era police organization affiliated belt buckles with unique design emblems. Pictured is a brown leather 1935 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a TP or Technische Polizeischule property stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 7691;view 1, view 2 and view 3. a 1920s chamber stamped commercial P.08 Luger, The third is a late 1920s sear bar and magazine safety, German acceptance stamped E/WaA66 Police Luger s/n 4559t. 3. Pictured are multiple views of the above mentioned 1908/13 Commercial-Army-Police P.08 Luger, s/n 69859, one of approximately 450 M1908 commercial P.08 Lugers appropriated by the Imperial German army as indicated by the installed sear safety, later assigned to the German NAZI Police per Imperial Lugers by J. Numbers are matching except for firing pin. View First Unread . Police unit marked on the back is S.B.13.435 (Municipal Police, Berlin unit 13) as described by the seller. var xy=Math.floor(Math.random()*ad.length); Simson proofs. The new Freistaat Preuen style eagle was adopted as the emblem of the Preuen Schutzpolizei, (Prussian Protection Police) and the Preuen Kommunalpolizei, (Prussian Local/Municipal Police) and was utilized on their belt buckles. aware or familiar with that accessory, which is understandable, as TBLAP It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine . The bayonets are interesting, as most were produced during the 1920s during the Weimar period. The lower of the two (brass) studs is not an original German stud. Thanks to everyone who has added to this excellent and informative thread. A rank of 1,000,000 means the last copy sold approximately a month ago. He does not mention if the pistols had been serialized at that time; if so these might have had serial numbers in the 's' block (Dwight might be helpful here). Versailles, and after repeated demands by the IMKK, on June 29, 1921, the Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.H. $500. Feedback. German military and police units, one can sometimes derive some These bayonets also originally had a Prussian Eagle adorned clam shell device under the grip. Pictured are multiple views of the four brass studs and their dimensions used with the subject holster. Opinion 2: I'm convinced that this is an Air Factory Werkschutz holster. links[3]='http://www.marnamilitaria.com'; The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in The first set of letters on the line indicate the military or police unit This was the largest of the HZa's and located in Bavaria. Either the original placement of the holster body cleaning rod pouch/sleeve entrance lip was incredibly low, with the entrance lip being 46 m/m below the holster body spine edge entrance lip, requiring the addition of a 33 m/m length leather strip, raising the entrance to within 15 m/m of the holster body spine entrance lip. 19-105, being offered by a noted dealer for an equally extremely rare four-digit price, Possibly post-WW2 East Germany DDR Police holster. Description. Example 1. Sturgess additionally describes the police cleaning rod in the Fig. Estimated price on these beauties run between $3,500-$25,000. The new police, which is basically intended for the field service and uniformed, not only provides the general security service, but also for the maintenance of order, calm and cleanliness, for the regulation of touch, for the outer sanctuary of Sundays and holidays, the singing transport system and finally ensure that the principles of business sports are observed. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Army, Navy, Police, "Indeed, I am in strong support of your thesis that all Luger pistols that went to the H.P contract were produced and delivered by DWM in 1929. There was an identical Zeitz marked holster offered for $695 on the web site of a major Luger retailer, however, stating in the description, specifically, that the holster is a WW2 police issue: ">WW2 police issue. luger1. By the 19th century, disputes over the use of Fraktur or Antigua typeface became more heated and lasted until the middle of the 20th century. With the reorganization of the police carried out on 6 October 1920, the factual responsibility of the new police has been considerably expanded. That will teach me not to depend on my memory! WaA107 Schnellpressenfabrik Heidelberg 1939 a.k.a. links[7]='https://www.marnamilitaria.com'; For those looking at the other end of the scale, there are a number of Mauser-produced byf Code WWII-era guns popularly known as black widows that are priced with estimates starting at $900. regulations issued in 1920, and are shown in the following table. These were finished and delivered by Mauser as stock on hand in the early '30s. "Jt" being the abbreviation for the Ingolstadt HZa. (For more information, consult The Imperial German Barrel proof, some 1920 Police and Double Dated Lugers. One of the belt loops appears to be replaced. As Dwight's database shows, most of the blank toggle Lugers have "t" and "u" serial number suffixes. 4 days Left WW2 ERA GERMAN POLICE LUGER HOLSTER RIG $150 . It is fortunate that both books stayed together since 1921 and were acquired as a set, both signed by the original owner. 1928 (Undated) "Riff" Berlin Mauser Rig (Police) SOLD. These considerations must form the basis for the training of the police officer. Pictured is a 1915 dated P. Braunleder Cln Pictured is one such unique example. Captain Ernst Roehm, future head of the SA [Sturmabteilung, a.k.a. included provisions for two spare magazines, cleaning rod, box of period ammunition and a loading tool. Condition:--not specified . Note: Air surveillance departments controlled by the provincial ----------------------------------------------------------- page 3 ----------------------------------------------------------. Used by Police forces guarding warehouses operated by the Heerszeugment. 3 days Left DWM 1906 SWISS POLICE LUGER SEMI-AUTO PISTOL. A sear safety has been added. 2866 is pictured in two views, one with the Xs removed and the other enhanced, both with the intent of identifying the markings. No tool pouch. SIG Sauer MCX Review: Next-Gen Modern Sporting Rifle? The frame tells us that it was an artillery (200mm barrel) and has had the barrel replaced by Simson & Co., the only one authorized to build Lugers after the great war by the treaty of Versailles. This particular Police bayonet has been described not as Dress bayonet because it has an issue number on both the bayonet and the scabbard and as such its not a dress bayonet, but a duty bayonet and that they wore these on Patrol. Still, page 174 Figure 28b describes and pictures a P.08 barrel installed ERMA muzzle protector in the text caption that states: This device fits over the muzzle of a Luger and reportedly protects the barrel rifling at the muzzle from the cleaning rod shaft. Brown would be rural. The is a 9mm, all matching police luger. We talked to a subject matter expert who repairs WW1 / WW2 h Pictured is the holster used with the 1950s Bahnpolizei FN 1922 pistol, separate and together with pistol. Regarding the completely intact magazine safety of 4559t, very few of these police Lugers survived as nearly all of these magazine safety assemblies were deactivated by cutting off the front end of the mechanism under a decree of May 1937. Buy Very Rare 1941 BYF41 Luger Army- Police P08 Mauser German Pistol 9mm P38: GunBroker is the largest seller of Curios & Relics Collectible Firearms All: 966966512 Serial number stamped on the back corner 9436. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Gustav Reinhardt Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L. Sch.137. $1,000. 33. The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. This is German WWI Naval crown m marked on the left receiver. German manufactured commercial holster, original pistol model unknown, as identified by ink stampings located on the inside cover flap, WALTHER POLIZEI-PISTOLEN PP / PPK und ihre Handhabung, an equally rare 1936 Walther PP/PPK 50 year commemorative flyer. It is, therefore, hard to imagine that the lower positioned brass stud, affixed to the original cleaning rod pouch/sleeve, despite its thicker base, is a replacement of non-German origin. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Luger Holsters & Their Accs., P137 Bahnschutz holster, M. Morris. It is curious that the Hannover Police markings, S. Hn. 2866 is pictured in two views, one with the Xs removed and the other enhanced. Featured is a WW2 police style holster marked WaAJL16 on the rear between the bell loops along with a 4-digit 1108 believed to be a Police P.08 serial number. links[8]='http://www.johnsonreferencebooks.com'; Dealers description: Conversion from an artillery pattern holster, no legible markings. WOL, 1977 by S. Costanzo on page 105, described as a 1933 Heers Waffen Amt proof. JavaScript is disabled. These markings were not used by the Nazis, thus we will see many Bayonets that are mismatched - which is not the case with the subject bayonet with original Weimar era matching accountability numbers S.B. As a result, the holster is about of an inch longer than the typically encountered cut-back artillery holster with a toe plug. The other marking is an inspection stamp, consisting of a crown over a 'fraktur,' or letter. Pictured are view 1, view 2 and view 3 of the subject Police holster. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 12 ----------------------------------------------------------, Pictured is an exceptional example of one such Police officer private purchase, unmarked and unmodified Weimar era Police clamshell dress bayonet. Checkered walnut grips are not numbered. I think it's a P08 made by DWM ( Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken ). " Die moisten sind veraltet: andererseits sind in neuerer Zeit so viele Vorschriften hinzugetommem, gass es fr den Unfnger schwer ift, das Richtige herauszufinden. Regimental markings on a 1916 P08 Luger - Arms and other weapons - The Great War (1914-1918) Forum. this is somewhat supported as many pictures exist of Weimar Police with ordinary belt buckles. by dk598 16 Aug 2016, 04:12. This is a standard 1934 Model gun designated by collectors as the '39 Mauser Police Banner that was ordered from Mauser for the Police use. Pictured is a variation 1, spring loaded muzzle protector, which is the only one of two known examples of a muzzle protector used by the Wehrmacht or German army as indicated by the droop-wing eagle over WaA107 army inspection stamp located on the right side flat. regulations issued in 1922, and are shown in the following table. It is uncertain how long the holster remained in the pre-1928 first conversion, shortened LP.08 police pattern as the balance of the changes that constitute the second conversion are unique to this holster, starting with the removal of the up-strap, cover flap keeper and brass stud, plugging the cover flap stud anchor hole, and replacing the original artillery up-strap with a non-standard for a police holster, originally black paint/enamel coated metal belt buckle, keeper and strap cover flap closure. Das geistige Rstzeug fr seine Umtsausbung muss er so vllig besitzen, das ser jederzeit das Rechte trifft. Many combinations of eagles and numbers are noted. Heinrich Krieghoff - Suhl, Germany At least six pre-production Lugers are known to exist. Most observed are reworks with double date or blank chambers of DWM and ERFURT.(shown below) The eagle proof differs from recognized Police Luger eagle stamped holsters, which are usually not associated with E/WaA control numbers. by von thoma 07 May 2016, 02:26, Post Otherwise, the magazine has no proof stamps or markings besides the serial number. Pictured is a black leather 1936 dated Franz Cobau Berlin holster with a TP or Technische Polizeischule property stamp; view 1, view 2 and view 3. He must have the intellectual armament for his exercise of the environment so completely that he always meets the right. 1918 Dingeldey & Werres-Berlin cut-back artillery to police holster, Luger holstered s/n 5008. 11-17-2022 12:57 PM by Pistol. These cut-back, modified/converted artillery LP.08 holsters are discussed in Weimar Lugers by J. The Police Lugers: German Police Lugers and Their Markings 1918-1958 book is in very low demand now as the rank for the book is 5,705,216 at the moment. Any aluminium based or black plastic based magazine (without serial number) would be correct for this gun. DWM Luger Identification Guide. There are many possible combinations of S.B.13.435 - Berlin unit 13 - Pistole s/n 9140e. This would account for the Luftwaffe acceptance stamp. Der herausgeber. Lugers and P38 Markings MarshalZhukov 4.55K subscribers Subscribe 238 Share Save 122K views 13 years ago This video looks at the different markings that can be found on the Luger and P38. Pictured below are several Police Training and Instruction manuals dating from 1921 through 1949. 1930s and beyond with a Weimar era made, seven ring wooden barrel handle cleaning rod, as mentioned, specifically made for use with police Lugers, 2 Policing Germany, including Police Unit Marks Chapt. 1908/13 five-digit s/n commercial-military-police Luger. 1st model prototype. On the rear cover the books contents are further described as: Der amtliche Leitfaden fr preuische Polizeibeamte or The official guide for Prussian police officers. This rare leather S.K.g 715 holster by Otto Stuertz Allenstein is in excellent condition. Sind viele Uenderungen aus dem Gebiete des Staats=, Polizei= und Strafrechts eingetreten. 45aand 45a and in The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols a.k.a. PREUEN marked eagle, round belt buckle, gold or silver, has been identified. Based on the year 1924 the holster is most likely brown. $500. Holster front view pictured with P.08. Pictured is a brown leather example with regulation holster body attached holster body spare magazine pouch with up-strap and cover flap keeper slit and steel stud closure. For my database of police markings, could you tell me the serial number of this pistol and whether or not it has sear and/or mag safeties? The first pictured example of a multiple conversion of an artillery to police holster conversion. Additionally, it seems incongruous that a 1920s post WW1 manufacture brass stud was added or replaced when clearly period correct brass studs were available as attested by the added brass stud, while the apparent goal was to modify the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and cover flap to accommodate a Police cleaning rod as the lower replaced brass stud would clearly interfere with the insertion of a Police cleaning rod. Chapter 4, p. 64 & Chapter 7, pp. (motor transport seciont), Sonderwagenstaffel der Kraftfahrabteilung (armored vehicle squadron), Polizei-Reitschule (police equestrian school), Assigned to Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. (communications training indicated by the 220mm, short length pull-through chain. For the rest, however, there has been a tendency to warn the book in its existing form as far as possible. In the TBLAP, Fig. The 2008 discussions were all over the map with collectors stating that the WOL Costanzo comments were incorrect, disputing the WaAJL16 stamp as incorrectly interpreted by Costanzo as being WaAJt16. Is wird daher fr alle Polizeibeamten, die mit dem Inhalt des Buches vertraut sind, ein leichtes sein, sich auch in der vorliegenden Reubearbeitung ohne Schwierigteit zurechtzusinden. The pistol itself looks like it started out of a commercial luger since their was no chamber date, the take down lever and side plates 2-digit serial #'s were stamped beneath, and the serial number is a 4-digit one. If you are looking for something similarly long, RIA has a Farsi-marked Persian contract Mauser Artillery Luger with an 8-inch barrel. var ad=new Array() it is stamped on the rear with the original holstered police Luger serial number 5008. fortunately the holster still retains the matching 5008 serial number stamped loading tool. Thus, unit marks give one some history about the items on which Normally, as stated above, these cut-back artillery holsters utilized a toe plug, in this case the subject holster is about of an inch longer, allowing the leather smith enough materiel to fold over the toe opening, mostly conforming to the 1929 and later police holsters. The police officer is therefore faced with the varied expenses. The conventional wisdom is that these were manufactured in 1929. 3. eBay Auction, 1933 Paul Goldner Halle a. S. holster, Spain controlled two small mountainous sections of Northern Morocco that were separated by a bay. Brief explanation of the Danish HIPO-organization (as the name is mentioned again and again): HIPO was a Danish corps, established 1944 by the German Gestapo, recruited among Danish traitors after, most of the Danish policemen on September 19th 1944 were arrested and sent to concentration camps in Germany. $175.00 Like New Condition. of "P". The two-piece assembly can also be A very similar style of eagle can be found on Gewehr 98 rifles. It was subject to the command of the local Reichswehr The American, British and French allies in concert with Germany restructured the western Berlin Police to reflect the western democracies as illustrated by the then leader of the free world; another picture. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in Hierdurch werden die jungen Polizeibeamten vor neue Uufgaben bgestellt, die sich um so schwieriger erweisen, als die neue Polizei nicht nur die Gesahren politischer und wirtschastlicher Kmpse abwehren, sondern vor allem ihrer eigentlichen frheren Tatigfeit zugesuhrt werden foll. Zone railway police used an earlier, relatively obscure 7.65 m/m caliber, FN Model 1922 pistol. The instruction manual is pictured and other interesting details are described in. Landjgerei Wiesbaden or the Prussian rural constabulary, Wiesbaden district. Mike, i don't think Joop is doing that? Please report any errors to me. Hard to find historic variation. collar slot aligned and properly threaded, leaving a proper space allowing the Made in Germany and completely lead free. 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